Audrey; Thank you for your response. How long have you been having the Chronic Pain?. It happens sometimes that one has received a big shock in the body and in the mind. Such a big a shock that it remains in the mind even when the body has already healed. And so, the mind keeps sending the message of pain to the body. Other times, it's a bell warning one to slow down. Caresse you knee and all the areas where the pain is. If you can't with your hands then do it with your mind. Talk to them as they were your little babies with all your love and all your kindness. This is far of being sentimental. Each member of your body is alive. Your whole body is the universe and each member are part of it. Move always very gentle with the help of your in/out breathing. The awareness of the in and out breathing will show you how to move. Mayka
--- On Tue, 15/2/11, audreydc1983 <[email protected]> wrote: From: audreydc1983 <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 15 February, 2011, 9:55 I just wanted to add that I will be watching this subject quite closely. I have chronic knee pain from my short stint in the Marine Corps, which led to chronic back pain - and crippling back strains, every few months or so. I have tried drugs, therapy, and physical therapy, all to no avail. I'm now trying to realize and acknowledge my pain, to put it in a new perspective, so I can approach PT in a more healthy way. Thank you for your insights. :) ~Audrey --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Hi ED: >  > That page are only tips towards pain in general. There is no specification > but just general ideas.    Her style is very alike TNH dharma and > retreats,  >  > Pain management can be a large subject with variations from to person to > person. >  > There are three big basic points to be developed into other points (I can > think of now): >  > Stopping > Resting > Practicing >  > Kindness, forbearance, endurance, pacience,  comes by themselves as a > result of stopping. An important detail forgotten in my previous post was > the one of "smiling". The half smile it softens a great deal the tension of > the body specially in the face where it is said that 300 muscles are in the > face. The half smile for some reason also brings out compassion in one. > It's a very interesting experience to be in acute pain, breathing in / out > with the half smile. If any of you have ever try, have a go. Not joking > at all. >  > Mayka >  >  >  >  > --- On Mon, 14/2/11, ED <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > From: ED <seacrofter001@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 16:08 > > >  > > > > > >  > About Vidyamala > Vidyamala is a co-founder and director of Breathworks, a company offering > `mindfulness-based strategies for living well'. > She runs courses in Manchester UK for people suffering from chronic pain and > illness, teaching them how to optimize quality of life using meditation and > other mindfulness-based strategies. She also is involved in running a > training program for those wishing to deliver the Breathworks programme in > other localities. > She suffered a spinal injury in 1976 and has used meditation and mindfulness > to manage her own chronic pain for many years. > Vidyamala's CDs of guided meditations â€" developed as part of her > Breathworks pain management program â€" are available for sale in our online > store. > http://www.wildmind.org/applied/pain/pain-management-tips >  > Mayka, > Could anyone state steps to manage chronic pain in a more complete, succinct > and clear manner than does the above teacher in the referenced article? > --ED >  >  > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the link ED. >  > Anything that people have experienced in themselves in the treatment of pain > management is good to be share with others. But whatever writing created on > this subject without having the personal and direct experience in one, It > will bring disorientation to all those people who are in real pain and don't > know how to handle it. >  > Personally, talking about pain is not amongst my favourite subjects to talk > about it. Motherless, my experience with it is very real and that > experience is very valuable to other people who would like to know about it > as first hand. I was already requested in several occasions in the past to > share this experience and write in their magazine by high authorities of the > dharma. I never did it. I said that I had to go deeper into it and couldn't > be distracted by writing. Those authorities of the dharma know me > personally and face to face. So, I'm actually honouring this website and > the zen living one by writing about it. >  > You're great finding information and your links can be at times very > interesting. They add an spice to postings. So If you could find more about > this subject I should be grateful as it will save me time and effort of > writing posting about this subject. But try to find information that is > reliable and have been experienced by the one who writes. We don't want to > mess about this subject. We only genuinely want to share real experiences > about this subject to alleviate the pain in others. Don't we? >  > Thank you ED. > Mayka   >  >  >  > ED posted: > > > > > > http://www.wildmind.org/applied/pain/pain-management-tips > This person appears to me to very nicely state the case for how to manage > pain. >
