Kristy,

Please forgive Mayka. She has a language barrier. When she says, 'what are you 
talking about, she means no offense.' Furthermore, Mayka is not as old as me, 
so does not understand different positions of different people. Please suspend 
your attorney for the time being.

Anthony

--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Kristy McClain <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Kristy McClain <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 25 February, 2011, 7:20 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Bill,
 
All comments from Maria Lopez' address /s are  auto-fwd to my attorneys now.  
She continues to comment though I have requested formally that no further 
comments are made public. 
 
Bill.. This is serious.  I have put up with enough from her.  I will file 
charges.
 
Kristy


--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 4:08 AM


  






 Kristy :
 
Please calm down.  Please notice that posting was a conversation between Bill 
and myself.  I don't understand what I may have said to bring in you such a 
reaction.  
 
Mayka


--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Kristy McClain <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Kristy McClain <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 25 February, 2011, 11:00


  






Bill,
 
I want her comments stopped now-- as a moderator. I am fwd them to yahoo, and 
my attorneys.
 
There is a limit..  I appreciate your position.
 
Contact me privately.
 
Thanks.
 
Kristy


--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 3:49 AM


  






Krsity:
Could you kindly illustrate me what are you talking about?.  
Thanks
Mayka

--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Kristy McClain <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Kristy McClain <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 25 February, 2011, 10:39


  






Mayka,
 
I was raped.  I think you have some work to do on
 empathy yourself.  If you want to help your sister.. help yourself  first. 
 
I care about you-- but I admit--you make it difficult sometimes..
 
Kristy  (Before you have a impulse for a defensive reply--hit delete).


--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 3:18 AM


  






Bill;
 
I suppose you or anyone can't give views about an event thas not taken place in 
one life.  Only the ones and closed to the ones who were victims can share that 
kind of experience and how they reacted in front of it.  
 
Just for the seek of mental exercise:  
 
1 - Visualice yourself being raped and everything that happens in you.  Just 
acknowledge them. Your reaction ect. Give a description of them. 
 
2 - What is the first thing that comes to your mind if any of the closest ones 
to you from your family were raped?. What is the next thing?.  Give a 
description of your mind reaction.  Visualice  that and acknowledge what you're 
experiencing.  This might have been a more revealing way of seeing what there 
is really in one in a situation like that. 
 
Mayka 

--- On Fri, 25/2/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bill! <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, 25 February, 2011, 9:47


  

Mayka,

My remarks were a swipe at religions in general, but specifically Christianity 
who on one hand preach forgiveness (New Testament) and on the other hand demand 
retribution (Old Testament).

I'll gladly give you my views but this thread has become so unraveled I'm not 
sure just exactly on what you want my views.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>
> Bill:
>  oh yeah, and cut off their penis while you're at it'.
> 
> Mayka: What does your comment above means?.  Did you mean as an act or 
> revenge, judgemental...or what?.  If the comment comes because of the idea 
> of castrating a rapist...I stick to it.  Though not as passionately as 
> yesterday, yes there will be need to study well the
 case.  All measures are relative nonetheless castration is the only one I can 
think of for the safety of women. What are your views here?
>  
> Mayka 
> 
> --- On Thu, 24/2/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Can A Buddha Harm Others?
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, 24 February, 2011, 5:34
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> ED,
> 
> I couldn't answer for all who have experienced satori. They would all have 
> their own answers, and some perhaps no answer. Experiencing satori 
> (realization of Buddha Mind) does not automatically give everyone the same 
> values. That's the job of a religion. Religions built up around someone's 
> satori
 experience (like Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and probably Islam)do tend to 
unify and then codify values. They would certainly have something to say about 
this - like 'forgive them - oh yeah, and cut off their penis while you're at 
it'.
> 
> ...Bill! 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Steve and Bill, what might a woman/man who had realized kensho-satori
> > have to say about punishment for rape?
> > 
> > --ED
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote:
> >
 >
> > > The best to slow down the high rate of raping in the world is to take
> > the justice in one hands and cut the sexual organs of the rapist so that
> > no more women are raped by the same rapist.. Raping is one of those
> > things that makes really furious to all women in the world.
> >
>












      

    
     

    
    


 



  





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