...or maybe we're all born enlightened, but that is obscured as we of necessity 
develop our sense of self and powers of reasoning.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have
> claimed to have become spontaneously enlightened or were born
> enlightened.
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > ... I empathise with the Dzogchen claim that meditation is not
> essential
> > for enlightenmentm but is useful for developing mindfullness, moral
> development,
> > concentration etc. Only after Realisation is meditation essential for
> deepening
> > the initial breakthrough.
> >
> > Mike
>




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