--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
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> I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have
> claimed to have become spontaneously enlightened or were born
> enlightened.
> 
> --ED
> 
> Hi ED. Oh, I don't deny that people who are in the process of
waking up will often sit in meditation and engage in other practices,
but when they do wake up they realize that all of that was just part
of the dream of separateness and that there was never an independant agent 
doing it. As Huang Po noted, "To practice the 6 Paramitas and a vast number of 
similar practices is to advance by stages. But the Buddha that has always 
existed is not a Buddha of stages!" IMO.
Steve



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