Mike- Could you please define realization and enlightenment in this tradition.
Thanks...Deborah
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From: mike brown <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 5:16:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Change
ED,
Maybe, maybe not. It still stands tho that meditation is not essential
for enlightenment as it leads us away from Realisation. Therein lies the
paradox
- for most of us meditation was the way to Realisation.
Mike
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From: ED <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, 1 March, 2011 18:20:57
Subject: Re: [Zen] Change
I believe that there are relatively few cases of individuals who have claimed
to
have become spontaneously enlightened or were born enlightened.
--ED
--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> ... I empathise with the Dzogchen claim that meditation is not essential
> for enlightenmentm but is useful for developing mindfullness, moral
>development,
>
> concentration etc. Only after Realisation is meditation essential for
> deepening
>
> the initial breakthrough.
>
> Mike
