Steve,

when you are deconditioning yourself to these "bad habits," are you aware
also of their source?  Why is anger so negative in your mind?

I feel through my own efforts of "deconditioning" have proven faulty in the
sense that spontaneous action has a more honest effect in at least showing
me where I'm at rather than pretending to restrain myself.  I don't know if
this is the same for you, but I wanted to ask because I recognized that
pattern which you described in my own thought process.

It just seems to me that you should let yourself--i'm also talking to myself
here also--be a pain in the butt.  You're being honest and you can also let
yourself be grateful for that and maybe also forgiveness, non-resentment, et
al.  ;-)

Tao Shei Fei

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:25 PM, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote:

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> --- In [email protected], "Healthyplay1" <healthyplay1@...> wrote:
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> > Um... so does forensics psychology. So-- its as simple as an unconscious
> wish --"manifests"?
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> > Hi Kristy. Actually, I think that Libet's work supports a rather
> Buddhist way of looking at it. We tend to assume that the conscious
> mind is initiating thoughts and intentions, but Libet's work calls
> this into question. Of course, anyone who has practiced zazen soon
> notices that thoughts and volitional impulses just bubble-up into
> awareness. There is no Little Person in a control room pushing
> buttons to make thoughts and volitional impulses manifest. Our
> conscious minds only become aware of the volitional impulse about
> a half-second after it starts. Libet said that although we clearly
> do not initiate the impulse, we do have a split-second in which to
> veto it. He called this Free-Won't in contradistinction to Free-Will.
> So basically, our volitional impulses, which Buddhists call Samskaras, are
> karmic, which is to say that they are conditioned
> automatic habits. Some researchers, such as Jeffrey Schwartz (who
> is a practicing Buddhist), think that by being mindful of the
> volitional impulse in that little half-second, and refusing to
> identify with and act upon it, allows us to deprive the impulse
> of it's "habit-energy" (vasana) that it needs to perpetuate itself.
> If this is done each time the habitual impulse arises, then the
> impulse will die out. And this, of course, is how Buddhists de-condition
> negative impulses. I, myself, do this on a daily basis.
> When I become aware of a negative impulse such as anger arising,
> I disengage from the impulse by focussing on the Name of the Buddha.
> This provides me with a mental anchor that prevents my attention from
> being swept away by the anger. Of course, this has nothing to do with
> enlightenment, just with deconditioning bad habits of thought, word and deed
> which make me a pain in the butt both to myself and others.
> Steve
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