Steve,

My focus is more on 'the ultimate source of emotions' because of
question Tao Shei Fei asked:

> "... when you are deconditioning yourself to these "bad habits," are
you aware also of their source?"

Two possible 'ultimate sources'  are:

o The evolutionary biological-psychological model as to how humans have
evolved with traits, including emotions, that maximize evolutionary
fitness in the Darwinian process.

o The other is the Buddhist perspective of transmission of karmic
tendencies in the process of death and rebirth.

--ED



--- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
>
> Hi ED. I agree with you on this. I certainly don't think that people
> should never be angry when it is appropriate to the situation. What I
am really talking about are pervasive conditioned patterns of response
across the board. For Aversion types, even when they are not angry,
there is still a subtle urge to push away, and escape from, people,
places and things. Anger is sometimes perfectly appropriate, imo. If I
see a child being abused, I will certainly allow the quite appropriate
anger to energize my appropriate response to protect the child. IMO.

> Steve



> --- In [email protected], "ED" seacrofter001@ wrote:

>From the perspective of  an 'ultimate natural source', the potential for
anger, greed, lust and so on exist in humans, because these traits over
the millennia have enhanced Darwinian fitness.

"Natural selection is the process by which traits become more or less
common in a population due to consistent effects upon the survival or
reproduction of their bearers. It is a key mechanism of evolution."

Human ability to anger is embedded in the deep structure of the human
brain - the Limbic System, as it has significant reproductive fitness
enhancing tendencies (when not misused.) Hence the difficulty humans
face when attempting to 'control' or  'erase' anger.

In short, from a this-worldly perspective, (appropriate) anger is normal
and natural in humans, for, when allowed to be expressed sparingly,  it
can contribute to individual human interest, to family interest, or to
group interest.

--ED



--- In [email protected], yonyonson@... wrote:
>
> ... when you are deconditioning yourself to these "bad habits," are
you aware also of their source?

> Tao Shei Fei








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