--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>


> ED;

>  I'd like to clarify with you that I don't experience dislike for your
person in any way.

Mayka, I believe you.

Which 'I' is it that's speaking, and which 'I' experiences dislike?



>But I don't enjoy very much to be offended and you never apologise for
it.

Did I offend you, or was it that you you felt offended?

Which 'I' does not enjoy the feeling of being offended?

The Christian-influenced understandings of apologizing tend to be
woo-woo.

I prefer the Jewish code for apologies: Never apologize unless you feel
you have done the person a wrong.

Although I do think that apologizing can be used as upaya (skillful
means) for achieving peace when the other party is fixated on their
sense of having been offended, and the situation is going to hell in a
hand-basket.



> Though, there wouldn't be talk about zen but just sitting down and
sharing with the sangha.  I'm almost positive that then we both would be
get on very well as there is a genuine side of you I like it very much.

>Mayka



I am possibly genuinely addicted to telling the truth as I see it (only
when appropriate, I hope), rather than to keeping people dumb and happy
by telling them what would make them happy.

As you may well imagine, that's not a very smart way of winning friends
and influencing people!

   [:p]    --ED



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