--- In [email protected], "Guy" <anatmansurf@...> wrote: > > Wow, lots of different points of view expressed here. Maybe i should just further explain. > > Hotei answered the master with real action in the moment, not an intellectualization of it. Real action in the here and now is Buddhism/Reality. Hotei could have done any number of things, as long as they were real action in the moment.
Guy, OTOH, Hotei's response may have been an acting out of an intellectual position, as Hotei must have known that the preferred wont in Zen is to act out rather than articulate. > I simply wanted to see others reaction to what i consider a great story that encapsulates what Zen really is at a human level (the relative truth as opposed to the Absolute truth). > > Be well, Guy "Relative truth is conventional or empirical truth - that experienced by the senses, whereas, the ultimate truth can only be realized by transcending concepts through intuitive insight." http://www.urbandharma.org/udnl2/nl031604.html <http://www.urbandharma.org/udnl2/nl031604.html> Guy, can you explain how this delightful story helps us discriminate between relative and abolute truth, especially as only a very small minority of us, and it is not known for certain who they are, have developed intuitive insight? Thanks, and be well, ED PS: Some of us hold that 'dharma combat' or 'mondo' between students is an acceptable activity.
