Guy,

Pretending to be Zenistically perpicacious, I would say: "Much learning
about nothing happens on the Zen Forrum, so lmay there be no comings or
goings."

Be well, ED



--- In [email protected], "Guy" <anatmansurf@...> wrote:
>
>
> Ed,
> The point of my post wasn't really about the absolute or relative. It
was more about seeing the answer Hotei gave. What did the Buddhist
master infer from his actions that he approved of as an answer?
>
> And yes, he was partly acting out of intellect, but from a point of
pranja; of which intellect IS part of. Just not the total thing.
>
> As far as clearing up the whole absolute/reletive thing, here it goes.
The reletive is straightforword. You're you, I'm me, that's a dog
humping a chicken. Reality exist.
>
> The Absolute is simply this moment before thought, the same as the
state of zazen. It exist before perception because it happens way too
fast for us to see it. but the moment happens, otherwise we could never
exist. Without time and place nothing can "be".
>
> Our perceptive mind is akin to an astronomer viewing a telescope into
deep space and seeing the Universe just after it was created. This
occurs because it takes light billions of years to cross the Universe.
However, at this very moment across the galaxy, very different things
exist. What we see now as gaseous clouds have probably settled into
galaxies with stars and orbiting planets.
>
> Light entering your eyes and being processed by the brain is the same
gap. Just not as long of a gap.
> So therefore you could never really know what's right in front of your
eyes.Perception is a delusion.
>
> Be well
> Guy

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