Hi Bill,
Sorry for not being clear. These are preliminary anyway. Do suggest
what you prefer...
There will be two programs arriving to one Christian area.
1. There will be advertising to people who suffer from health
issues. They will be directed to learn chan meditation, which has
more Chinese Medicine and no religious or spiritual content, with
just meditate. In this site, we will make them aware that there
are spiritual benefits for Christians and Buddhists. Then they
can click on to Christian or Buddhist testimonials, how to apply
this meditative technique/states/mindset to God, etc. etc.
2. There will also be an advocacy program, making people aware the
benefits of Meditate First, through Facebook, In which every way
to meditate is acceptable, yet we recommend the Chan/zen way if
asked. In this advocacy program, deepening our connection to God
is also listed as one link for Christian.
The intent is not to impose Chan/Zen onto anyone. Just do our best to
describe Chan/Zen technique/mindset/spirituality in Christian terms, if
doable.
Well? What do you think?
Thank you with a bow,
JMJM
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 3/25/2011 2:47 AM, Bill! wrote:
JMJM,
This is not what I thought you meant, although I still might
interested in this activity also.
What kind of meditation are you intending to teach/recommend?
Christianity already has lots of meditative practices. An example is
the Catholic ritual of praying using Rosary Beads. This involves
reciting the Apostle's Creed at the crucifix, an 'Our Father' at the
first large bead, three 'Hail Marys' on the next three beads, then a
'Glory be to the Father' on the next large bead, and then proceeds
with the cyclic repetition of 'Hail Marys' and 'Our Fathers'.
The constant repetition of all these short prayers soon become similar
to chanting mantras or working on a breakthrough koan and can result
in the cessation of the descriminating mind.
I've never heard of any Christian meditation that was similar to
shikantaza (clear mind) meditation; or that emphasize breathing or
recommend specfic postures. Have you?
Some Christian sects also have fasting, bowing or self-flaggelation
techniques that could lead to a clear-mind state.
Is it your intention to teach them Chan/zen meditation or to encourage
them to practice their native-Christian meditative practices?
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote:
>
> Excellent, Bill.. Now here is my preliminary plan..
>
> We will launch Adword in April with keywords such as depression,
stress,
> insomnia, etc. to get people to learn meditation. At the same time, we
> will be starting a movement on Facebook titled, "Meditate First" =
> "whether you are Chrisitan, Buddhist, Muslin, Jew, rich or poor, before
> you act, talk, think, Meditate First." Sort of...
>
> Both of these will aggregate witnesses in health and spirituality, just
> from opposite ends. Therefore, there will be one web area, be it
> tumblr, or facebook page, or part of meditatefirst.org, where witnesses
> are posted.
>
> Both chan-meditation.org(from what are the benefits) and
> meditatefirst.org (to connect deeper to Christ) will link to this place.
>
> The idea is not to compare zen/Chan with Christianity, or teach
> Christians about zen/Chan, but get Christians to Meditate First. They
> will automatically deepen their faith or read Bible differently.
> Therefore, in these articles, there will be no need to mention Zen or
> Chan, just how to meditate to be closer to God.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts. If you can think of an outline, I can
> setup anything in one week -- joomla 1.5 or just Tumblr. Then you can
> enter the content. I would not have time to read anything. I have a
> lot to do.
>
> * Our Family Oneness program is successful into libraries.
> * Corporate Oneness programs is piloted into corporations.
> * Personal oneness program to hit the US through Adword.
> * A 200 people Chan Center is in the process being located.
> * 10 classes a week to support.
>
> Let us do something. Everyone is welcome.
>
> BTW, Not sure I mentioned this before, my Teacher and another well
known
> Teacher both mentioned about one month ago, we MUST get more people to
> meditate to quiet the karmic events arriving soon.
>
> No wonder I have sensing urgency for awhile. Just do what we can.
> Together.
>
> Many Thanks. A bow to ALL.
> JM
>
> Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> http://www.heartchan.org
>
>
> On 3/24/2011 5:36 PM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > JMJM,
> >
> > I would be interested in participating in this. I was brought up as a
> > Christian and have gone through a lot of Bible study. I agree
> > wholeheartedly with your premise.
> >
> > If you haven't already read it, I'd suggest you find a copy of a
small
> > book called THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ZEN. It's theme is the same as
the
> > one you've described.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Good Morning Steve and anyone who is interested to help,
> > >
> > > I wanted to incorporate a zen way to deepen the "Christian
faith" on
> > our
> > > websites, but I don't know the Bible enough.
> > >
> > > The intent is...
> > >
> > > * To show that Chan/zen and christian faith are one of the same.
> > > * Enabling the reading of the bible in a different light.
> > > * Deepen our connection with God.
> > >
> > > It could be a page or two, or an entire website, (if you have
the time
> > > to write the content and the newsletter). I can set it up.
> > >
> > > This will be interlinked with http://www.chan-meditation.org. It
is now
> > > top ranked in google, bing, yahoo with keyword -- chan
meditation. (no
> > > quotation mark).
> > >
> > > Also because we will be promoting Chan meditation beginning in
> > April/May
> > > with online Adword.
> > >
> > > Many Thanks,
> > > JM
> > >
> > > --
> > > Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
> > > http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
> > > http://www.heartchan.org
> > >
> >
> >
>
