--- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
[SW] I'll even ignore Wittgenstein's advice and try and tell you what I personally experienced. But, of course it will be all to no avail. [ED] It is not of "no avail" to me. Please tell me, what do you want me to be persuaded about for it to be of avail to you? [SW] Oh, that doesn't refer to any attempt to persuade, but rather to communicate. [ED] I like that. [SW] But of course all language is dualistic and second-hand. [ED] Despite everything, we try and do the best we can to communicate. [SW] It happened that one day, for no reason I can give, that I became acutely aware of the fact that in every moment of experience there is only the total "being-ness" of experience. There is no subject experiencing an object of experience. [ED] What are the conequences of this non-dual experiencing? > [SW] Peace of mind. [SW] ... there is only the totality of the experience itself, and that totality includes everything. [ED] You feel the experience includes everything, but are you sure you are experiencing everything? [SW] Oh no, of course not. But what I am referring to is the "Being-ness" of any experience. In my opinion, all phenomena are "Mind-Only". Hence, to realize the Being-ness of any moment of experience is the same as experiencing the totality. One need only touch the wetness of any one wave of water in order to realize the wetness of all waves of water. IMO. [ED] I get it. Very interesting. [SW] I did not feel that I had experienced something new, but had only noticed the way it had always been. [ED] And, what is the significance of this feeling? [SW] It released me from anxiously striving for enlightenment. I'm pretty relaxed now. -Steve [ED] So the 'value' of your experience is the calm and peace it brought you. That sounds pretty good to me. What more could one ask for? -ED
