--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Steve -
> 
> Do you assert below that Zen is a mystery that cannot be probed with the
> ordinary mind, and can only be apprehended through an experience of the
> state of kensho-satori, after an act of faith and years or decades of
> shikantaza?
> 
> --ED

  Hi ED. Yes. However, the English word, "faith" can be misleading. What I am 
really talking about when I am on my Pureland horse is Shinjin, which cannot be 
directly translated from Japanese into English without some confusion. 
"Trust-mind" is about the closest in English. Also, imo, zazen (I really don't 
know what shikantaza is.) does not "cause" kensho-satori. In my opinion, satori 
is not subject to our common-sense notions of cause and effect. However, many 
people who experience satori are drawn to zazen. IMO.
Steve
"Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent."  
-Wittgenstein
"It is like an eye that sees, but cannot see itself. It is like a sword that 
cuts, but cannot cut itself." -the Zenrin  
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