--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
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>  Thank you for your kind nest of your thoughts Steve. Â
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> Â Mind that if I wrote that mental state was to make a very important point
> and that was that in the purest essence of zen there are no morals or ethics
> of right or wrong. Saying this like this, it sounds as it was something
> dangerous to a society. It sounds as the real zennist practitioners were a
> kind of aliens with no morals or ethics. And all what it means is that âthe
> morals and ethicsâ are found in the awareness of the breath anchored in the
> present moment and nowhere else. A non practitioner will be unable to
> understand this because in fact is a truth that can only be seeing and
> experienced by oneself alone.
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> It was to make a point about the non discrimination between positive and
> negative. For instance in the TNH traditions followers dwell in a kind of
> ideal world where everything is turned out a fantasy world where nothing
> negative is accepted. For some time I was into that wave myself. Till one day
> out of the blue, I had a break through that and could see that alike the
> Jhanas all that previous wave of â Walt Disney World â was an intriguing
> pleasant passage preparing one in courage to cut through illusion and getting
> closer and closer to the heart of life.
> Mayka
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> Hi Maria. Yes, I understood that. However, I do agree with JM that awakening
> involves the realization of how we are not free. I personally think that
> TNH's approach is basically correct. IMO, too many people simply become
> resigned to being enslaved by their kleshas and call that awakening.
Steve
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