Steve: I didn't say that TNH approach was correct or incorrect. I only stated that that way of Walt Disney world atmosphere created with the purpose of watering what are the wholesome seeds in one. And that is an effective way of healing and transformation and preparing the grounds to get later on into the real thing. It served it purpose very well. I owe a lot to it. But I'm now in a different moment in which I'd rather not to make distintions with the positive and the negative arising in me. I don't try to be positive or negative any longer. I recognise what arises in me, I experience that with whole impact that that has in my whole body and mind. I don't have to practise to be jolly or feel diminished because a non social unpleasant welcome emotion is expresed and get psycological admonition afterwards by the flock as the walt dysney construction gets disturbed by it. I have only to be present with myself presence and aware of whatever arises. TNH is at the base of any evolution I may be having in zen. I learnt a great deal of very valuable things from him which has saved me from years of sitting down. Mayka --- On Wed, 20/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote:
From: SteveW <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Another Article Of Possible Interest To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 18:54 --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Thank you for your kind nest of your thoughts Steve. > > Mind that if I wrote that mental state was to make a very important point > and that was that in the purest essence of zen there are no morals or ethics > of right or wrong. Saying this like this, it sounds as it was something > dangerous to a society. It sounds as the real zennist practitioners were a > kind of aliens with no morals or ethics. And all what it means is that “the > morals and ethics” are found in the awareness of the breath anchored in the > present moment and nowhere else. A non practitioner will be unable to > understand this because in fact is a truth that can only be seeing and > experienced by oneself alone. > > > It was to make a point about the non discrimination between positive and > negative. For instance in the TNH traditions followers dwell in a kind of > ideal world where everything is turned out a fantasy world where nothing > negative is accepted. For some time I was into that wave myself. Till one day > out of the blue, I had a break through that and could see that alike the > Jhanas all that previous wave of “ Walt Disney World “ was an intriguing > pleasant passage preparing one in courage to cut through illusion and getting > closer and closer to the heart of life. > Mayka > > > Hi Maria. Yes, I understood that. However, I do agree with JM that awakening > involves the realization of how we are not free. I personally think that > TNH's approach is basically correct. IMO, too many people simply become > resigned to being enslaved by their kleshas and call that awakening. Steve
