--- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote:
>
> Steve:
> Â
> I didn't say that TNH approach was correct or incorrect. I only stated that
> that way of Walt Disney world atmosphere created with the purpose of watering
> what are the wholesome seeds in one. And that is an effective way of
> healing and transformation and preparing the grounds to get later on into the
> real thing.    It served it purpose very well. I owe a lot to it. But
> I'm now in a different moment in which I'd rather not to make distintions
> with the positive and the negative arising in me. I don't try to be
> positive or negative any longer. I recognise what arises in me, I
> experience that with whole impact that that has in my whole body and
> mind.  I don't have to practise to be jolly or feel diminished because a
> non social unpleasant welcome emotion is expresed and get psycological
> admonition afterwards by the flock as the walt dysney construction
> gets disturbed by it. I have only to be present with myself presence and
> aware of
> whatever arises.
> Â
>  TNH is at the base of any evolution I may be having in zen. I learnt a
> great deal of very valuable things from him which has saved me from years of
> sitting down.Â
> Â
> Mayka
> Â
>
 Maria, perhaps I misconstrue what you are saying, in which case I am sorry.
But your words represent all that is deplorable about this amoral Westernized
Zen, imo. You treat TNH's teaching on simple goodness with contempt when you
compare it to "Walt Disney World".
I think that you have just given up. Simply to be fully present as you hurt
others is not enlightenment. This Westernized Zen is just nihilistic
existentialism, imo. Sarte said that it really didn't matter whether you helped
an old lady across the street, or else hit her over the head and stole her
purse, as long as you were being "authentic". This has nothing whatsoever to do
with the enlightened teachings of the Buddha,imo. Again, if I simply
misunderstand you, then I apologize.
Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
[email protected]
[email protected]
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
