Mayka/Steve, Steve quotes: 'it really didn't matter whether you helped an old lady across the street, or else hit her over the head and stole her purse, as long as you were being "authentic"' I like the metaphor. So we should do more than just 'be aware' of the present. Anthony
--- On Thu, 21/4/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote: From: SteveW <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Another Article Of Possible Interest To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 12:40 PM --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Steve: >  > I didn't say that TNH approach was correct or incorrect. I only stated that > that way of Walt Disney world atmosphere created with the purpose of watering > what are the wholesome seeds in one. And that is an effective way of > healing and transformation and preparing the grounds to get later on into the > real thing.    It served it purpose very well. I owe a lot to it. But > I'm now in a different moment in which I'd rather not to make distintions > with the positive and the negative arising in me. I don't try to be > positive or negative any longer. I recognise what arises in me, I > experience that with whole impact that that has in my whole body and > mind.  I don't have to practise to be jolly or feel diminished because a > non social unpleasant welcome emotion is expresed and get psycological > admonition afterwards by the flock as the walt dysney construction > gets disturbed by it. I have only to be present with myself presence and aware of > whatever arises. >  >  TNH is at the base of any evolution I may be having in zen. I learnt a > great deal of very valuable things from him which has saved me from years of > sitting down. >  > Mayka >  >  Maria, perhaps I misconstrue what you are saying, in which case I am sorry. But your words represent all that is deplorable about this amoral Westernized Zen, imo. You treat TNH's teaching on simple goodness with contempt when you compare it to "Walt Disney World". I think that you have just given up. Simply to be fully present as you hurt others is not enlightenment. This Westernized Zen is just nihilistic existentialism, imo. Sarte said that it really didn't matter whether you helped an old lady across the street, or else hit her over the head and stole her purse, as long as you were being "authentic". This has nothing whatsoever to do with the enlightened teachings of the Buddha,imo. Again, if I simply misunderstand you, then I apologize. Steve > > > > > > >
