Hi

How would you know if you experienced "Buddha Nature?"

best wishes

zendervish

--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> Mel,
> 
> Using modern-day (or ancient) teachings from zen masters is okay to get you 
> started on your way.  Once, however, you've experienced Buddha Nature for 
> yourself you will not be dependent upon these or any other teachings.  This 
> experience of Buddha Nature is EXACTLY THE SAME as Siddartha's, 
> Mahakashyapa's, Bodhidarma's, Mumon's, Joshu's, Deshimaru and Shunryu 
> Suzuki's experience.  There is no aspect of that where corruption can take 
> hold.
> 
> The only possible corruption that can happen is a corruption in you, in your 
> self corrupting your own experience by filtering, augmenting, interpreting, 
> judging - UNDERSTANDING Buddha Nature.
> 
> When someone asks me if I'm Buddhist I usually answer, 'No, I'm called 
> Bill!', or 'No, I'm not Buddhist.  I practice zen.'
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote:
> >
> > I often have problems with seeing myself as a Buddhist of any sort let 
> > alone telling people about it, because I know for a fact that my beliefs 
> > are centered/based on the interpretations of today's modern day zen 
> > teachers such as senseis Deshimaru and (Shunryu) Suzuki. It has been a long 
> > time since the old man died and nobody really knew what he said except 
> > those who have actually spent time with him before he died. Nevertheless, I 
> > made the decision to stick with zen
> >  
> > Fellow 'buddhists', there is no shame in saying or acknowledging that all 
> > we know today are highly likely to be corruptions of what the old prince 
> > may have uttered, but do we really care? 
> >  
> > Today, people see my Buddha pendant around my neck, my zen books, and 
> > bowings I make to my meals and images before me. Seeing such, many ask me 
> > if I'm Buddhist, and I just say yes out of convenience
> >  
> > Buddha be praised
> > Mel
> >
>




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