Zendervish, The same way you know fire is hot and ice is cold.
You experience it. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@...> wrote: > > Hi > > How would you know if you experienced "Buddha Nature?" > > best wishes > > zendervish > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > Mel, > > > > Using modern-day (or ancient) teachings from zen masters is okay to get you > > started on your way. Once, however, you've experienced Buddha Nature for > > yourself you will not be dependent upon these or any other teachings. This > > experience of Buddha Nature is EXACTLY THE SAME as Siddartha's, > > Mahakashyapa's, Bodhidarma's, Mumon's, Joshu's, Deshimaru and Shunryu > > Suzuki's experience. There is no aspect of that where corruption can take > > hold. > > > > The only possible corruption that can happen is a corruption in you, in > > your self corrupting your own experience by filtering, augmenting, > > interpreting, judging - UNDERSTANDING Buddha Nature. > > > > When someone asks me if I'm Buddhist I usually answer, 'No, I'm called > > Bill!', or 'No, I'm not Buddhist. I practice zen.' > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote: > > > > > > I often have problems with seeing myself as a Buddhist of any sort let > > > alone telling people about it, because I know for a fact that my beliefs > > > are centered/based on the interpretations of today's modern day zen > > > teachers such as senseis Deshimaru and (Shunryu) Suzuki. It has been a > > > long time since the old man died and nobody really knew what he said > > > except those who have actually spent time with him before he died. > > > Nevertheless, I made the decision to stick with zen > > > > > > Fellow 'buddhists', there is no shame in saying or acknowledging that all > > > we know today are highly likely to be corruptions of what the old prince > > > may have uttered, but do we really care? > > > > > > Today, people see my Buddha pendant around my neck, my zen books, and > > > bowings I make to my meals and images before me. Seeing such, many ask me > > > if I'm Buddhist, and I just say yes out of convenience > > > > > > Buddha be praised > > > Mel > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
