But suffering is so much fun!! Darn you, Bill, for exposing the maya. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mark, > > You can go and have all the fun you want. I you can go and have all the > sufferring you want. The important part is to know it's all maya and let it > all go when you're finished having fun or finished sufferring. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@...> wrote: > > > > Bill - > > > > That's the danger of "fun" is it not? When aren't having it, we think > we're > > suffering. > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > Sufferring is also unimportant, and I also suggest letting it > go...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The fun is unimportant. I suggest letting it go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill/JMJM, > > > > > > > > > > I think this is the major difference between zen and other > meditation > > > > > techniques. The former always discounts what you see or imagine > during > > > the > > > > > sessions as maya or hallucination, while other sects emphasize on > them. > > > Like > > > > > JM says, white light means kensho. That is why zen is just a black > and > > > white > > > > > TV. Bill, are you going to desert it and join JM's color TV with a > lot > > > more > > > > > fun? > > > > > > > > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Bill! <BillSmart@> > > > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:19 AM > > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JMJM, > > > > > > > > > > When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear > > > mind) I > > > > > 'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which > seem > > > to > > > > > emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an > > > aura, > > > > > and a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by > and > > > > > suspended in honey. > > > > > > > > > > In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' > and > > > > > unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them > slide > > > away > > > > > and 'just sit'. > > > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - > > > 覺妙精明 > > > > > <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning to All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of > the > > > > > > labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao > > > Miaoming, > > > > > > recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the > > > formless. > > > > > > One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the > > > details. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in > archived > > > > > > lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart > Imprint(formless). > > > > > > > > > > > > As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, > Dharma, > > > > > > Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the > Nirmanakaya. > > > > > > Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught > by my > > > > > > Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. > > > Green > > > > > > is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the > Heart > > > > > > Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have > > > mentioned > > > > > > off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha > > > > > > witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As > stated in > > > > > > our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night > > > sky, > > > > > > but inside our body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth > upon > > > > > > recipient of this transmission is what it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and > > > > > > communicating to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a > > > > > > non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple > > > requires > > > > > > no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. > > > > > > > > > > > > As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, if you would like to talk to Miaoming privately, he will be > most > > > > > > delighted. Contact me and I will forward his private email. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To be enlightened in this life... > > > > > > http://www.heartchan.org > > > > > > To save our world... > > > > > > http://www.universal-oneness.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or > are > > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
