Mark, You can go and have all the fun you want. I you can go and have all the sufferring you want. The important part is to know it's all maya and let it all go when you're finished having fun or finished sufferring.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@...> wrote: > > Bill - > > That's the danger of "fun" is it not? When aren't having it, we think we're > suffering. > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > Mark, > > > > Sufferring is also unimportant, and I also suggest letting it go...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Mark Perew <mperew@> wrote: > > > > > > The fun is unimportant. I suggest letting it go. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill/JMJM, > > > > > > > > I think this is the major difference between zen and other meditation > > > > techniques. The former always discounts what you see or imagine during > > the > > > > sessions as maya or hallucination, while other sects emphasize on them. > > Like > > > > JM says, white light means kensho. That is why zen is just a black and > > white > > > > TV. Bill, are you going to desert it and join JM's color TV with a lot > > more > > > > fun? > > > > > > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > *From:* Bill! <BillSmart@> > > > > *To:* [email protected] > > > > *Sent:* Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:19 AM > > > > > > > > *Subject:* [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II > > > > > > > > > > > > JMJM, > > > > > > > > When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear > > mind) I > > > > 'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which seem > > to > > > > emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an > > aura, > > > > and a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by and > > > > suspended in honey. > > > > > > > > In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' and > > > > unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them slide > > away > > > > and 'just sit'. > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - > > 覺å¦â¢Ã§Â²Â¾Ã¦ËŽ > > > > <chan.jmjm@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good morning to All, > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of the > > > > > labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao > > Miaoming, > > > > > recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. > > > > > > > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the > > formless. > > > > > One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the > > details. > > > > > > > > > > The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in archived > > > > > lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart Imprint(formless). > > > > > > > > > > As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, Dharma, > > > > > Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the Nirmanakaya. > > > > > Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught by my > > > > > Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. > > Green > > > > > is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the Heart > > > > > Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have > > mentioned > > > > > off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha > > > > > witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As stated in > > > > > our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night > > sky, > > > > > but inside our body. > > > > > > > > > > Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth upon > > > > > recipient of this transmission is what it is. > > > > > > > > > > I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and > > > > > communicating to everyone. > > > > > > > > > > In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a > > > > > non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple > > requires > > > > > no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. > > > > > > > > > > As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your attention. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, if you would like to talk to Miaoming privately, he will be most > > > > > delighted. 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