On 4/4/2012 6:23 PM, mike brown wrote:

Kirk,

Even a Zen traditionalist wouldn't be too concerned about Ginsberg's and Watts' Zen. People can experience Zen/zen whether they've heard of it previously, or not, Indeed, it's possible to 'experience' Zen even be those following an orthodox, theistic religion (Imagine their Household Meetings!). So just because Watts and Ginsberg shagged around, smoked, drank and taught/practiced other Eastern philosophies, it doesn't follow that they can't Zen/zen (Yes, meant as a verb).

Mike

The Ten Tao-Zen things (just say it, don't think)...

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