ED, 

That's the hornets nest you provoke by asking. Again, if you don't intuitively 
understand what compassion is then asking isn't going to get you closer to it. 
Trust yourself.

Mike

--- On Thu, 14/6/12, ED <[email protected]> wrote:

From: ED <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 1:07
















 



  


    
      
      
      



K, the problem with zen is that, without reliance on scriptures, zen in

the West appears to have become  a madhouse of  opinions of zen teachers

and their students - not that I recommend any change.



--ED



--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:

>

> Compassion is wherever you are. Compassion is always with, never from

> or for. What use seeking it in others? Questions of others equanimity

or

> enlightenment, make the same error.

>

> Compassion with this error, allows it to be realized.

> Equanimity in this error, allows this to be realized.

> Enlightenment as this error, allows this to be realized.

>

>

> Realization is experiencing these, yet none of these are experiences.

>

>

> There is only this - compassion & equanimity, experiencing

enlightenment.

>

> Breaking this statement down to show the extraordinary in/as the

ordinary:

>

> There is [compassion] only this [equanimity], experiencing

[enlightenment].

>

> Removing the redundancies and added moral/social/spiritual labels

> seekers get hung up on entirely:

>

> There is only this, experiencing.

>

> K





    
     

    
    






  








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