Anthony, I didn't say I would comfort the victim's family, etc... I said those kind of activities could be called compassion. That's all. I'd advise you not to read more into my responses than I've posted.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > Bill, > Â > Why do you comfort the victim's family? Why do you help mafiaso discover why > they resort to violence? Does that kind of thinking also applies to the zen > way? > Â > Anthony > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012, 10:46 > Subject: [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion > > > Â > Anthony, > > IN LAY TERMS when a mafia member harms someone comforting the victim's family > could be called compassion. Helping the mafioso discover why he/she resorts > to violence could be called compassion. > > Answering your question could be called compassion. > > ...Bill! > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Joe, > > ÃÂ > > I am talking about compassion in lay terms. I don't think it is automatic. > > For example, when a mafia member kills, loots and rapes, where is the > > compassion? > > ÃÂ > > anthony > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Joe <desert_woodworker@> > > To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2012, 21:00 > > Subject: [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Anthony, > > > > I think in fact that wisdom and compassion arise faster than ideas of good > > or evil can arise. Compassion and wisdom are like lightning. They take no > > time to come into being and to function. > > > > So, compassion makes it to the finish-line before good or evil can even > > rear its head. (And after compassion and wisdom arise, there are no ideas > > of good and evil, either. Usually the mind is entirely empty or still, and > > you cannot even force yourself to have a thought, for days, weeks, months, > > or years). > > > > But this is "zen-" compassion, as you call it, and not any other kind, > > "idiot-" or otherwise. > > > > There is definitely wisdom and compassion. These are the ONLY functions of > > the awakened sentient being. No matter what activity we carry out, wisdom > > and compassion are behind them. Really, we can't separate the activity from > > wisdom and compassion. > > > > So we learn through practice, ...not to take anybody's word for it! > > > > How about you, do you have pretty good practice opportunities and > > conditions? It may not seem easy for us householders, but even if we were > > monastics, we'd still have to practice. > > > > --Joe > > > > > Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > > You often here zen does not differerentiate between 'good' and 'evil'. > > > Does that mean there is no compassion? > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
