Anthony,

As much as I may like and respect you and your practice, I CAN'T approve or 
affirm what you impute to the Ch'an master.  I was not there.  And even if I 
had been there, well, I am not the Ch'an master himself.  He's a fellow who 
knows how to dispense medicine; do you?

Can you be sure what the Ch'an master had in mind?  With all due respect, I 
doubt it.  I would give the Old Man the benefit of the doubt, and try to LEARN 
from his advice.  I did not bring up the issue of karma, even if the Ch'an 
master said that many people suffer from their own karma.  He's certainly right 
about that!, and I will not worsen things by maligning the Old Man.  My most 
wonderful teacher was a Ch'an master... many of us miss him.

Talk of holocausts and dictators will not get me to lash out at the Hong Kong 
Ch'an master.  You are not a dog, so don't bark up the wrong tree.  In all 
seriousness!

Let's talk again later, pls.

--Joe

--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:

> If I say Hitler's holocaust victims, or Pol Pot's massacre are due to their 
> own karma. That might be true, [snip]



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