Joe,
 
You snipped at a wrong place. The karma remark might be true, but it is also 
nonsense, as it brings about suffering. the old man is not a chan master, he is 
a 'famous' mahayan monk, respected by many, including me in the beginning, but 
I gave up. I am not a dog, but a rabbit. You see the movie  that Buggs Bunny 
joins dogs to bark up a tree that is supposed to be with him on top?
 
Anthony


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From: Joe <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2012, 17:19
Subject: Re: [Zen] Speaking of Compassion


  
Anthony,

As much as I may like and respect you and your practice, I CAN'T approve or 
affirm what you impute to the Ch'an master. I was not there. And even if I had 
been there, well, I am not the Ch'an master himself. He's a fellow who knows 
how to dispense medicine; do you?

Can you be sure what the Ch'an master had in mind? With all due respect, I 
doubt it. I would give the Old Man the benefit of the doubt, and try to LEARN 
from his advice. I did not bring up the issue of karma, even if the Ch'an 
master said that many people suffer from their own karma. He's certainly right 
about that!, and I will not worsen things by maligning the Old Man. My most 
wonderful teacher was a Ch'an master... many of us miss him.

Talk of holocausts and dictators will not get me to lash out at the Hong Kong 
Ch'an master. You are not a dog, so don't bark up the wrong tree. In all 
seriousness!

Let's talk again later, pls.

--Joe

--- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:

> If I say Hitler's holocaust victims, or Pol Pot's massacre are due to their 
> own karma. That might be true, [snip]


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