Read some history, teachers are tricked by students all through time. just don't lie to yourself. how can people not try to trick a teacher that they believe can give them some valuable pearl? On Jul 3, 2012 7:02 AM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, thanks. I'll stop looking for the line in Graves' poems! ;-) > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >...after all we are all unique ...is that not the zen way? > > As to the question, I'd say, "No". Originality is not necessary in an > expression for, say, a zen teacher to approve an utterance, say in dokusan, > or in any other testing situation when or where a teacher is testing one's > (a student's, or visitor's) realization. > > Originality is not necessary; but Authenticity is. > > Zen teachers just know the authentic when they hear it or see it; there's > no faking them, and guessing does will not work either. > > Well, just a non-specific report from inside the room. We're cautioned > against telling details of actual happenings in our practice. > > But the book Dr. Joe "prescribed" for you, THE THREE PILLARS OF ZEN, is > replete with transcriptions of interactions between students and the roshi > in the dokusan room. Kapleau, the author, made the transcriptions, with > the roshi's and the students' permission. > > Kapleau had been one of the court transcriptionists during the Nuremberg > trials, and his shorthand was very good. I suppose the roshi allowed this > material to get out during a time when zen teachers were all too scarce in > the West. The reports of these encounters give a taste of dokusan, one of > our many Zen practices. > > I say a taste, because, as you say, we're unique, so don't depend on them. > Just a taste, now. > > Best, > > --Joe > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
