--Chris Thanks,
--Chris [email protected] +1-301-270-6524 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Joe <[email protected]> wrote: > I asked for just one. Was I unclear? > > Motor-mouth. > Sorry, I see my language was a bit stronger than needed to try to convince you we disagreed on something. You may be on a different path, but that doesn't make it all wrong. And the debate between sudden awakening and something else seems to be quite common where ever you have more than a few people pursuing the path - I shouldn't really try to convince you of more than that sudden awakening is not the only zen tradition there is. And ultimately, not even that. Sleep well. I look forward to continuing the interaction later. --Chris > > -J. > > > Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > > > Talking about before awakening or after awakening, talking about the work > > of practice, all wrong. Sudden awakening, works for some, for some the > > idea causes them to miss the wonder of life. For some, it appears to > > foster a lack of psychological sight: thinking that because such an > > awakening experience has been in their past they will never get caught up > > in illusion again, they then pretend not to be caught up in illusion the > > next time it happens: and then they are hosed, because now they are > > deceiving themselves. A great awakening, but "to encounter the absolute > is > > not yet enlightenment." Zen stories are full of people who thought they > > had achieved some great awakening only to be brought back to ordinariness > > by their friends and teachers. > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
