On 7/26/2012 11:08 AM, 覺妙精明 (JMJM) wrote:

Thank you ED for all three posts of yours. Then perhaps it is fair to say, "meaning of spiritual differs slightly from one to the other"??


Perhaps another version then: 'Spirit' is that without specific meaning/that which allows giving of meaning.

Thus 'spirituality' is the study/practice of giving and taking nothing - beyond the study and practice itself. Sounds kind of "Zen' put that way.... Sounds more Buddhist if expressed as a vow to save the non-existent 'sentient beings'...

Some might say ch'an/zen is the spirit of Buddhism. The essence (that which has been noted, predates Buddhism). This reflects the form of their study/practice, nothing else (See above and below).

What does the forum think?


Presently, this:

"This, is not my understanding."

By which (so as not to be misread or seem to be disagreeing with anyone or having some differing understanding) I mean "Whatever this reality is, it is simply this, not my conceptual understanding thereof, yet such understanding is also an aspect of this."

This being far too cumbersome - I keep to the abbreviated version. It's a simple reminder. Whenever mind gets up to it's tricks of this and that, this simple reflection reminds that such reflections are all empty (the diamond cutter - non-attachment to all dharmas). I greet all thoughts & beliefs in the spirit of Hakuin's "Is that so?" which with honesty leads to/springs from (no beginning or end) Seung Sahn's "Don't Know', 'Don't know mind', 'Beginner's mind', 'Original mind' etc. - the openness JM spoke to before.

It is almost pointless to call this reflection thinking, as infinitely less effort is required to see.

KG

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