ED,

I would say that this should really be:

'When one concentrates and directs his efforts we call that 'joriki'.  'Joriki' 
is not something special or even something in-and-of itself or even something 
at all.  It's just a name we give to and action we do.  When I say 'joriki is 
illusory' I'm saying the belief that 'joriki' is some kind of special or 
mystical or spiritual power is just an illusion.  'Joriki' is everyday stuff...

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Joriki
> 
>     * Literally means "power of mind". The long term strength that is
> carried through everyday life by the raising of concentration. With
> strong joriki, one can direct the mind in any direction, at any time.
> www.maximumbliss.com/zen dictionary.asp <http://www.maximumbliss.com/zen
> dictionary.asp>    -------------------   Illusory or 'real but
> impermanent'?  Maybe that's what 'illusory' means?     --ED  
> ------------------
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > I do believe 'chi' is makyo (illusory). I have 'experienced' it myself
> in many ways, but most especially as associated with my early zen
> practice as 'joriki' - but I do believe it to be illusory like my
> 'experiences' of good and evil, right and wrong, beautiful and ugly.
>



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