Kris, You say "The words matter not. They are like falling leaves, leaving the root more deeply covered." That's true - but only if you already know the root is there. Most people only see the mound of leaves and don't even know the root exists, much less where it is and how to find it.
Words do matter. They are the 'finger pointing to the moon'. They matter because it's easy to get fixated on the finger. IMO you have to continually change the finger or use other fingers to point to the moon to break this fixation. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > On 7/27/2012 6:30 AM, Bill! wrote: > > I would say that this should really be: > > > > 'When one concentrates and directs his efforts we call that 'joriki'. > > 'Joriki' is not something special or even something in-and-of itself > > or even something at all. It's just a name we give to and action we > > do. When I say 'joriki is illusory' I'm saying the belief that > > 'joriki' is some kind of special or mystical or spiritual power is > > just an illusion. 'Joriki' is everyday stuff... > > > Likewise it can be said: > > When one concentrates and directs his efforts we call that 'everyday > stuff'. 'Everyday stuff' is not something special in-and-of itself or > even something at all. It's just a name we give to an action we do. When > I say 'everyday stuff is illusory' I'm saying the belief that 'everyday > stuff' is/isn't some kind of special or mystical or spiritual power is > just an illusion. 'Everyday stuff' is Joriki... > > If instead of transposing subject/object this way, each instance of "is" > or "is not" is simply replaced with "is/is not" - the juxtaposition > takes care of itself. > > The words matter not. They are like falling leaves, leaving the root > more deeply covered. > > This conceptualization of "one" who "concentrates and directs his > efforts" business is the root of the illusion. Find him, find Buddha. > There's a famous saying about what to do next... > > KG > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
