Mike,

To be 'filled' with the Holy Spirit means there is no longer any room for your 
'self'.  Then there is no longer any self/other dualism.  There is only Buddha 
Nature.  Just THIS!

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> Bill! 
> 
> 
> The (Holy) ghost in the machine, perhaps? I dunno about your description, 
> tho. Isn't "to be filled" a bit different from 'empty'? Plus, when I hear 
> those happy clappy born-agains say they're filled with the Holy Spirit, they 
> seem quite a different animal from a Zen practioner sitting in shikantaza.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Friday, 3 August 2012, 11:24
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Samadhi
>  
> 
>   
> Mike,
> 
> I would describe it as something similar to being filled with the Holy Spirit 
> and giving yourself over COMPLETELY to God's will.
> 
> Bill!  (not Joe or Bill)
> 
> --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> > 
> > How would you describe shikantaza to someone from a religion such as 
> > Christianity?
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: Joe <desert_woodworker@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Friday, 3 August 2012, 3:24
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Samadhi
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Shikantaza is "just keeping empty".  In the Zen sect.
> > 
> > I'll say no more!
> > 
> > --Joe
> > 
> > > 
> > >"ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > Is shikantaza insight meditation, absorption meditation or both?
> >
>




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