Merle, >you rave about thatcher ..okay you are in wales..why are you so bothered with >Thatcherism then?.
Like I said, it's personal. Living in Wales at the time I experienced her directly. > god forbid...thatcher was a ripe bastard...she was no love they neighbour > woman..a bitch!..merle What's your excuse? Mike ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 1:13 Subject: Re: [Zen] evil mike do not lecture me..you rave about thatcher ..okay you are in wales..so you have labour..right..why are you so bothered with Thatcherism then?..good on you stick to your guns..why did you let the english run amok in wales?..merle Merle, Please do not take the Lord's name in vain. You know I'll be upset. Anyway, you're wrong. At least as far as Wales is concerned. Wales consistently returns predominantly Labour (they used to be for the working class back when the coal-mining industry was strong in wales) or Welsh Nationalist representatives. Overwhelmingly. The English predominantly return a higher percentage of Tories. This (in Wales) is classic voting for class interests. The Welsh voter, Joe 'Boyo' Blow-Jones knows exactly what's best for him - and it ain't conservative. Thatcher (hoooooock, spit!) knew there were no votes for her there and put in policies that smashed whole communities (mining) that were deep-rooted in Wales. Fuck her. Hope her senility never makesus forget. Mike Fuck Churchill, too. Sent the troops in to smash and kill legitimate strikers in Tonypandy (South wales). Wouldn't get that in leafy Wimbledon, would you? Anyway, back to my breath.. ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, 8 August 2012, 0:42 Subject: Re: [Zen] evil mike..for christ sake..i know it was a free election... how much did rupert murdoch have in manipulating the voters? jesus we all know that "free" ain't what it was or is do you honestly believe "joe blow" knows anything about politics? he is mass fed with bullshit and he swallows it hook line and sinker get real watch the american elections..you'll see the circus there and australian federal election 2013... it will be just the same bullshit bullshit and more makes me cry merle Merle, >in england it was a free election Exactly. I'm Welsh. Wales has never returned a Tory majority. Not once. As for my knickers, I'll stop twisting them if you can lead by example. Mike ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 23:25 Subject: [Zen] evil thatcher was an evil woman..small mind, mean...but don't get your kickers in a knot over her..remember she was voted in...and that's where the problem lies... the "little people" they put her there... that's what is so very very sad..manipulated and bamboozled..they vote for their own destruction...the little people...they prop up the queen of england and all that hogwash... what can one say?.. watch a doc on putin..what an evil man... he too is a power monger hell bent on manipulating his own people..there the voting was rigged..in england it was a free election... so you tell me why there are no governments in power around the world that are govt for the people... all people... tiny pockets exsist..however generally speaking the govt is about preserving the status quo... and the folks at the top of the food chain at the TOP greed has no boundaries and power mongering is the way of the world merle Merle, Well, it's not to be taken too literally, of course (I did warn you that my metta meditation is a work in progress).. But Thatcher destroyed working class communities in the UK (especially Wales), sent my comrades to get killed in the Falklands (I'm ex-British infantry) for political gain, supported Pinochet and his evil regime, cut back heating allowances for old people which resulted in many old people's deaths etc. She might not be the Anti-Christ but she does a pretty good impression. Mike ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 13:10 Subject: [Zen] hazy thinking you do not make it clear... accurate in who's eyes?..is it my haziness..?..sorry thatcher is now in the grips of dementia haze..i would not wish that on any soul merle Merle, >Mike..i beg your pardon?. anti-Christ...what a quaint expression? how boring..think of something original I do hope you do know I was talking about Thatcher!! And it's not "boring" - it's accurate! Mike (Yikes!) ________________________________ From: Merle Lester <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 12:52 Subject: Re: [Zen] mel..be of good cheer(to Merle/MIke/list) Mike..i beg your pardon?. anti-Christ...what a quaint expression? how boring..think of something original Mel....I was not going to bother reading any more of your ravings... how old are you? are you male or female or bisexual, or transexual or homosexual? just curious yes get back to your original mind maybe you do need a slap with a stick on your wrist time to take stock of what you think you might know start a fresh the journey has just begun now that your eyes are opened you are free to be who you are without the constraints of past ideas understandings and longings returning to the original mind finally wonderful take it easy as you breathe cheers the "dear old lady..." for christ' sake..what next are you's gunna call me? i could think up some beauties myself to describe you's who travel with those heavy napsacks on ya backs and call yourself zen fellas ho ho ho and ho hum yo that merle merle Mel, >are you telling me that you react to this dear old lady... She's not a "dear old lady". In fact, she's not even human. She's the Anti-Christ (See, I've been reading my Bible ; ) ) Mike ________________________________ From: Mel <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2012, 9:56 Subject: Re: [Zen] mel..be of good cheer(to Merle/MIke/list) Ok, I may have been a bit harsh with Merle. Merle, if you're reading this...well, I've gone over some of my words with you and perhaps I have made an ass out of myself. Perhaps you've even reminded me of a past lesson related to zazen. In zazen, we get taught that various thoughts come and go, and we just let them pass...even if evangelism in any form as I see it happens to be one of my personal demons. I shouldn't have reacted so quickly despite whatever. My apologies Mike, thanks for that, and for your patience online both here and at FB. But Mikey....'dingdong the witch is dead??'....*gasp/laughter/grin*....are you telling me that you react to this dear old lady the way a lot of Punjabis react to Sonia Gandhi? It's ok folks, as Mike knows I'm a little bit cracked...*more laughter*...cheers all! Mel the purist ________________________________ From: mike brown <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Zen] mel..be of good cheer Mel, > That'd be me who was raised in an atheistic household. Actually, I wasn't raised with any particular philosphy named 'atheisim' - it was just a general apathy to things religious. I don't like the word 'atheist'. We don't have a specific name for people who don't believe in astrology, so why have a name for people who just don't see any evidence of a personal god. In the same way, Christians (for example) are atheists in regard to Zeus or Appollo. I love Merle's idea of being in nature as her church. I just take it one step back and don't see the need to add anything to that walk in the forest. Was it Basho who said, "No one walks this path this Autumn evening..."? Mike Ps, Don't mention Thatcher to me. I'm just waiting for that magic moment when I can sing, "Ding Dong the witch is dead!" (My Loving-Kindness meditation is still a work in progress..).
