To me, this is obvious. 'Buddhism' tries to make something of it.
KG
On 8/28/2012 9:21 PM, Bill! wrote:
Both attachment and desire require the same thing - a self. A self
requires one thing - dualism that allows the mind to believe there is
a self that is separate from everything else.
The real key here IMO is dualism, dualistic thought. In my experience
when that dissolves so does the self and all its qualities including
desire and attachments - and the result that they bring: suffering.
That is Buddhism 101 to me...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> On 8/28/2012 4:26 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > The translation I've always heard has been 'attachments', not
> > 'desire'...Bill!
>
> Attachment reflects desire, desire reflects attachment. Grasping.
Desire
> to get something other than what is. The there's desire to escape/be
rid
> of something that is - rejection.
>
> Same motion, different perceived direction.
>
> Then there is the 'self' who does so. Groping around in the dark,
> holding on to this, pushing away from that, to orient self...
> Identification...
>
