'Buddhism' is a religion, and it is the purpose of a religion to make something out of nothing.
The concepts I talked about below: attachments, desires, self, dualism, etc..., are words used by Buddhism to prompt you to create an attachment to Buddhism. Zen is not a religion. It makes nothing out of everything - everything you think. What's left is only experience. Buddha Nature. Just THIS! Bill! ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote: > > To me, this is obvious. 'Buddhism' tries to make something of it. > > KG > > > On 8/28/2012 9:21 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > > Both attachment and desire require the same thing - a self. A self > > requires one thing - dualism that allows the mind to believe there is > > a self that is separate from everything else. > > > > The real key here IMO is dualism, dualistic thought. In my experience > > when that dissolves so does the self and all its qualities including > > desire and attachments - and the result that they bring: suffering. > > > > That is Buddhism 101 to me...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, > > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote: > > > > > > On 8/28/2012 4:26 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > > The translation I've always heard has been 'attachments', not > > > > 'desire'...Bill! > > > > > > Attachment reflects desire, desire reflects attachment. Grasping. > > Desire > > > to get something other than what is. The there's desire to escape/be > > rid > > > of something that is - rejection. > > > > > > Same motion, different perceived direction. > > > > > > Then there is the 'self' who does so. Groping around in the dark, > > > holding on to this, pushing away from that, to orient self... > > > Identification... > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
