Tail chasing.
KG
On 8/29/2012 12:30 AM, Bill! wrote:
'Buddhism' is a religion, and it is the purpose of a religion to make
something out of nothing.
The concepts I talked about below: attachments, desires, self,
dualism, etc..., are words used by Buddhism to prompt you to create an
attachment to Buddhism.
Zen is not a religion. It makes nothing out of everything - everything
you think. What's left is only experience. Buddha Nature. Just THIS! Bill!
...Bill!
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> To me, this is obvious. 'Buddhism' tries to make something of it.
>
> KG
>
>
> On 8/28/2012 9:21 PM, Bill! wrote:
> >
> > Both attachment and desire require the same thing - a self. A self
> > requires one thing - dualism that allows the mind to believe there is
> > a self that is separate from everything else.
> >
> > The real key here IMO is dualism, dualistic thought. In my experience
> > when that dissolves so does the self and all its qualities including
> > desire and attachments - and the result that they bring: suffering.
> >
> > That is Buddhism 101 to me...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Kristopher Grey <kris@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/28/2012 4:26 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > > > The translation I've always heard has been 'attachments', not
> > > > 'desire'...Bill!
> > >
> > > Attachment reflects desire, desire reflects attachment. Grasping.
> > Desire
> > > to get something other than what is. The there's desire to
escape/be
> > rid
> > > of something that is - rejection.
> > >
> > > Same motion, different perceived direction.
> > >
> > > Then there is the 'self' who does so. Groping around in the dark,
> > > holding on to this, pushing away from that, to orient self...
> > > Identification...
> > >
> >
> >
>
