Agreed, at least mostly, though I'd state it differently...
Edgar
On Aug 30, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
> On 8/30/2012 7:08 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>> Realization can't be attained by avoiding that effort...
>
> Nor by engaging in such effort.
>
> Should realization come after much apparent effort, it will naturally
> appear so. Should it come without effort, it will appear that efforts
> don't matter. A matter of great laughter, not great debate!
>
> Realization attained, there is no attainment. Suchness cannot supplant
> suchness.
>
> There are no mistakes in Zen, though Zen is often mistaken for this or that.
>
> KG
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