MIke,

Those words are fingers providing directions to the landing pad to the moon.

EDgar



On Sep 2, 2012, at 7:46 AM, mike brown wrote:

> 
> Edgar,
> 
> Of course Realisation is not something that happens only inside monastry 
> walls, but it also doesn't come from understanding words like "ontological" 
> and "cognitive simulation model" either. 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:31
> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
> 
>  
> Mike,
> 
> There are certainly times it is, but that can happen at any time.... 
> Realization is not just something that occurs inside monastery walls... It 
> has nothing to do with that... It's just opening to reality and reality is 
> everywhere...
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:57 AM, mike brown wrote:
> 
>>  
>> 
>> Edgar,
>> 
>> Wouldn't you say tho, that reality is less obscured during, or just after, a 
>> long retreat of meditation?
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] 
>> Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 1:13
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
>> 
>>  
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Well, it's reality either way, but that reality is always changing as 
>> happening continually flows through the present moment. But however it 
>> changes it is still reality....
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 6:09 PM, mike brown wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Edgar,
>>> 
>>> Would you say that the world (inner/outer) you look at now is the same as 
>>> when you're at the end of a sesshin? 
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected] 
>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2012, 18:44
>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils"
>>> 
>>>  
>>> ED,
>>> 
>>> Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature!
>>> 
>>> Edgar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 12:22 PM, ED wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Edgar,
>>>> 
>>>> Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice
>>>> diligently at all times with no objective in mind?
>>>> 
>>>> --ED
>>>> 
>>>> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe and Merle,
>>>> >
>>>> > There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which you
>>>> imagine you are incomplete....
>>>> >
>>>> > There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential aspect
>>>> of realization...
>>>> >
>>>> > Wham!
>>>> >
>>>> > Edgar
>>>> 
>>> 
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