Kris, >"Don't know" (Which only appears to be a pithy zen saying when seen so)
Or said so. Mike ________________________________ From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 16:14 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" With or without. Why decide? "Don't know" (Which only appears to be a pithy zen saying when seen so) KG On 9/2/2012 7:46 AM, mike brown wrote: >Edgar, > >Of course Realisation is not something that happens only inside monastry walls, but it also doesn't come from understanding words like "ontological" and "cognitive simulation model" either. > >Mike > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 12:31 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" > > > >Mike, > > >There are certainly times it is, but that can happen at any time.... >Realization is not just something that occurs inside monastery walls... It has >nothing to do with that... It's just opening to reality and reality is >everywhere... > > >Edgar > > > > > > >On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:57 AM, mike brown wrote: > > >> >> >>Edgar, >> >> >>Wouldn't you say tho, that reality is less obscured during, or just after, a >>long retreat of meditation? >> >> >>Mike >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Sunday, 2 September 2012, 1:13 >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >> >> >> >>Mike, >> >> >>Well, it's reality either way, but that reality is always changing as >>happening continually flows through the present moment. But however it >>changes it is still reality.... >> >> >>Edgar >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sep 1, 2012, at 6:09 PM, mike brown wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>>Edgar, >>> >>> >>>Would you say that the world (inner/outer) you look at now is the same as >>>when you're at the end of a sesshin? >>> >>> >>> >>>Mike >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> >>>To: [email protected] >>>Sent: Saturday, 1 September 2012, 18:44 >>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: " dancing with the daffodils" >>> >>> >>> >>>ED, >>> >>> >>>Stop practicing and just BE your Buddha Nature! >>> >>> >>>Edgar >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>On Sep 1, 2012, at 12:22 PM, ED wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Edgar, >>>> >>>>Therefore, although each of us is complete, we need to practice >>>>diligently at all times with no objective in mind? >>>> >>>>--ED >>>> >>>>--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Joe and Merle, >>>>> >>>>> There is no 'goal' of enlightenment to be achieved without which you >>>>imagine you are incomplete.... >>>>> >>>>> There is no incompleteness. This understanding is an essential aspect >>>>of realization... >>>>> >>>>> Wham! >>>>> >>>>> Edgar >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
