Edgar, The operative word here is 'big'. Logic does not plays a 'big' part in engineering. Logic does not play a 'big' part in art. I didn't say it doesn't play any part.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Bill!, > > That's nonsense as any, or at least most, practicing artists will tell you... > > Good art requires enormous technical mastery which involves long study and a > deep rational understanding.. > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:58 AM, billsmart wrote: > > > Logic plays a big part in engineering, not art...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > Â bill..artists can be logical too... logic plays a big part in my > > > art...merle > > > > > > > > > Â > > > Everyone, > > > > > > I try to communicate with people on this forum in the way I think would > > > be best to reach them. In Zen that's called 'skillful means'. I sometimes > > > refer to it as 'using all the tools in my toolbox'. > > > > > > I communicate with Edgar with logic and long exegeses because I believe > > > that is the only 'tool' he believes is valid - logic and understanding. > > > He in my opinion is a good example of the saying 'when all you have is a > > > hammer everything looks like a nail'. Logic is his hammer and he want's > > > to apply it to everything. I believe it is an inappropriate tool to apply > > > to zen, especially if that's the only tool you use. > > > > > > I communicate with Anthony with humor because I have seen him respond > > > well to that. > > > > > > I communicate with Kris and Mike using zen metaphors and that seems to > > > work well. > > > > > > I thought Merle, seeing the way she posted and being an artist, would > > > respond better to metaphors than to logic and dissertations, but I may > > > have misread that one. > > > > > > Anyway what I want everyone to know is that when I post my long > > > dissertations to Edgar it is specifically tailored for and primarily > > > directed at him. I know it's not appropriate for everyone so don't judge > > > me too harshly. This style is certainly not the one I am most comfortable > > > with, but is one I can employ. > > > > > > If anyone specifically addresses me in a post I will respond. I will also > > > respond to posts in which I'm not addressed if I think I have something > > > to add. When I post I usually address them to someone specific, and use > > > the style I think is the best way to communicate to them. It probably > > > won't suit everyone. > > > > > > Like I said I have many tools in my toolbox, but am more skillful and > > > comfortable with some than others. > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
