Edgar, I will not originate any more posts on this topic, but will respond to posts if asked or if I feel that a response is called for.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Let's drop this non Zen thread too. OK? > > Edgar > > > On Sep 7, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Bill! wrote: > > > Edgar, > > > > The operative word here is 'big'. Logic does not plays a 'big' part in > > engineering. Logic does not play a 'big' part in art. I didn't say it > > doesn't play any part. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > >> > >> Bill!, > >> > >> That's nonsense as any, or at least most, practicing artists will tell > >> you... > >> > >> Good art requires enormous technical mastery which involves long study and > >> a deep rational understanding.. > >> > >> Edgar > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:58 AM, billsmart wrote: > >> > >>> Logic plays a big part in engineering, not art...Bill! > >>> > >>> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Â bill..artists can be logical too... logic plays a big part in my > >>>> art...merle > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Â > >>>> Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> I try to communicate with people on this forum in the way I think would > >>>> be best to reach them. In Zen that's called 'skillful means'. I > >>>> sometimes refer to it as 'using all the tools in my toolbox'. > >>>> > >>>> I communicate with Edgar with logic and long exegeses because I believe > >>>> that is the only 'tool' he believes is valid - logic and understanding. > >>>> He in my opinion is a good example of the saying 'when all you have is a > >>>> hammer everything looks like a nail'. Logic is his hammer and he want's > >>>> to apply it to everything. I believe it is an inappropriate tool to > >>>> apply to zen, especially if that's the only tool you use. > >>>> > >>>> I communicate with Anthony with humor because I have seen him respond > >>>> well to that. > >>>> > >>>> I communicate with Kris and Mike using zen metaphors and that seems to > >>>> work well. > >>>> > >>>> I thought Merle, seeing the way she posted and being an artist, would > >>>> respond better to metaphors than to logic and dissertations, but I may > >>>> have misread that one. > >>>> > >>>> Anyway what I want everyone to know is that when I post my long > >>>> dissertations to Edgar it is specifically tailored for and primarily > >>>> directed at him. I know it's not appropriate for everyone so don't judge > >>>> me too harshly. This style is certainly not the one I am most > >>>> comfortable with, but is one I can employ. > >>>> > >>>> If anyone specifically addresses me in a post I will respond. I will > >>>> also respond to posts in which I'm not addressed if I think I have > >>>> something to add. When I post I usually address them to someone > >>>> specific, and use the style I think is the best way to communicate to > >>>> them. It probably won't suit everyone. > >>>> > >>>> Like I said I have many tools in my toolbox, but am more skillful and > >>>> comfortable with some than others. > >>>> > >>>> ...Bill! > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
