Trained as a product designer, who's function largely lies at the 'crux'
of the matter, this art/logic discussion is too damn funny. I've done
enough translating and peacemaking between 'creative types' and
'logical/linear thinkers', no need to do it here.
Y'all jus' keep gropin' 'roun' on dat ol' ellyfant (but don't reach too
far into the broom closet).
KG
On 9/8/2012 12:40 AM, Bill! wrote:
Merle,
Good post and question. My response is embedded below:
--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>,
Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
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> i love order bill.
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> ... that's logic in play..
[Bill!] Yes Merle, I love it too. My entire professional career is
based on developing and applying logic. I love it so much that I have
learned (through zen training - koan study specifically) that I must
be very careful not to become attached to my love of logic. That might
be why you see me protesting much to most of Edgar's posts.
> . are you telling me you have changed your mind now..?
[No, I'm not sure where you got that impression. Because I say there
is some role for logic in art? Yes, there is a role (or could be a
role), but it is not the primary process. The more logic put into art
the more art approaches engineering - and the more creativity put into
engineering the more it approaches art. Art and engineering are
actually the same things - human creations. They only differ on the
emphasis of logic versus creativity employed.
>
> . logic is part and parcel of any human endeavour
> we live in an ordered world
[Bill!] Logic is indeed part and parcel of any human endeavor, but not
of Buddha Nature. There is no dualisitc 'part and parcel' in Buddha
Nature. It is holistic. It is Just THIS!
> what planet are you coming from?...merle
[Bill!] I don't come FROM anywhere. I am. I am here. I am here now.
...Bill!
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> > Edgar,
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> > The operative word here is 'big'. Logic does not plays a 'big'
part in engineering. Logic does not play a 'big' part in art. I didn't
say it doesn't play any part.
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> > ...Bill!
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> >> On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:58 AM, billsmart wrote:
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> >>> Logic plays a big part in engineering, not art...Bill!.
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