Ah yes, Mr. Disandat negating his imagined negations again.

I never said there wasn't 'meaning', I was simply referring it back to its source - AKA Pointing to the nature of this. I realize you may have trouble grasping the obvious, so slice and reshuffle it so you can manage countless births and deaths generated by remaining attached to your precious/meaningful beliefs. You are in good company and can play this Zen is/isn't game all you like with Bill! - and all the other sentient beings you know - for eight million kalpas if you like.

Hell, If you keep believing you know what Zen is like a good Zennist, maybe Pu Tai/Hotei will bring you presents on Buddha's birthday.

Why wait, here's one now. A  classic:

http://cmtk3.webring.org/l/rd?ring=sutralibraries;id=1;url=http%3A%2F%2Fnichirenscoffeehouse.net%2FRyuei%2FSantaMaitreya.html

KG



On 9/8/2012 7:31 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:

KG,

Again, Zen is NOT Nihilism nor is it meaninglessness...

There is meaning, not necessarily in any one thing, but in the skein of consistency of ALL things...

Edgar

On Sep 8, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> On 9/8/2012 7:02 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>> People's programming causes them to commit atrocities.
>
> If that is so, then your 'programming' controls you and causes you to
> believe this is so. If this is not so, you would not express it so.
>
> Again, this is the same error. If you realize this, such delusional
> controller/controlling/controlled nonsense is effortlessly transcended
> (effortlessly - as imagined separations are not closed, as they simply
> have never there).
>
> But keep talking about 'them' if you prefer. The example it provides is
> a far better pointer than I can offer.
>
> KG
>
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