Bill! believes it would be more beneficial if you were to discover that YOUR true identity is that of the 'Living Buddha'...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  goodness me.... is bill!!!!!!!!!!! that dangerous? > > ..he might be all fire and breathing the breath of  the green dragon upon us > >  is this his way of protecting himself lest we discover his true identity > which may be the living buddha?. > > .merle > > >  > Merle, >  > I have hired a demon to protect me from enlightened people, such as Bill!. To > prevent you being harmed by him, you better pretend not to be enlightened, > even if you are. >  > Anthony > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012, 19:46 > Subject: Re: [Zen] the gospel of.... > > >  > > > yes watch out anthony..i bite..merle > > >  > Anthony, > > Be careful not to 'twist things around' or 'change the subject'. Merle does > not like that. > > In this case you're obviously 'twisting and changing' because the 'gospel' to > which Merle refers is in the New Testament, not the Old Testament. > > Shame on you! > > ...Bill! > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote: > > > > Doesn't the Old Testament always encourages the Jews to invade, conquer, > > torture and kill? Please let me know if I am wrong. > > à> > Anthony > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > To: "mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com"; > > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 6:44 > > Subject: [Zen] the gospel of.... > > > > > > à> > > > > > àaccording to the gospel of bill!..it's okay to invade... merlin > > > > Merle, > > > > à> > That was what they did when American Indians and Australian aborigines were > > invaded. How would they like? > > à> > Anthony > > > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > To: "mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com"; > > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2012, 15:04 > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA > > > > > > à> > > > > > àbill..it's not nationalism as such it's culture...we all have a "right" > > to be who we are...imposing another way of being on another is > > invasion...all must be respected...how would you like it if i flew over to > > your house said right i'm staying and started making the rules...eh?merle > > > > > > à> > Mike, > > > > I disliked the Dalai Lama's attempts at being both a political and > > religious leader - especially if a Buddhist. (Like I said before he > > actually was/is not a Buddhist but a 'Lamaist' (one who follows Lamaism). I > > guess you could stretch that into being a sub-set or sect of Buddhism but > > for me that's a bridge too far. Of course that's coming from > someone who doesn't see 'zen' as exclusively as sub-set or sect of Buddhism.) > > > > Nationalism is nationalism for me. I don't see how it makes any difference > > if you're the larger or smaller nation. It's all problematic. > > > > I see the Chinese trying to drag a province of their country into the 21st > > century by trying to dispel and unseat a superstition-based theocracy that > > kept the vast majority of their people living in serfdom and ignorance. > > > > As a political leader the Dalai Lama has every right to resist this. As a > > religious leader I think his responsibility was to tend to his people's > > religious needs, not support and even fuel their attachments (nationalism). > > These two roles did not mesh well, IMO. > > > > I think now that he's relinquished his political role I might be able to > > warm up to him - maybe. As long as he doesn't keep encouraging his people > > and his clergy to continue seditious acts - like > self-immolation. What's up with that? > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote: > > > > > > Wow, haven't been on the net for a few days and too many posts to catch > > > up on, so I've skim read thru them. My apologies if I don't immediately > > > respond to posts specifically addressed to me. I'd like to address this > > > post tho. > > > > > > > > > Bill!. I notice you've always had this almost pathological hatred of the > > > Dalai lama and I've never understood why. Your view of him is completely > > > at odds with mine, and considering we usually hold similar views, I'm > > > baffled as to why. I see a man who says there shouldn't be hatred > > > directed at the colonising Chinese, that he's not calling for an > > > independent Tibet, but that it should have some autonomy, and who exudes > > > Happiness even tho he's seen his land, people and culture decimated by > > > outside > political forces (remembering too that the west did nothing about the > invasion of Tibet for decades). What's not to like about the man? > > > > > > Also, I think there's a big difference regarding views on nationalism if > > > you're from a powerful state compared to one which is politically and/or > > > culturally threatened by a more powerful neighbour. Should we in Wales > > > just "accept" that our language and traditions our being eroded by > > > EnglishÃâàdominance? Should Native Americans and Australians just > > > "accept" their position brought about by colonising powers? > > > > > > > > > Personally, I think a lot of the criticism directed to the Dalai Lama > > > comes from western cynicism and is not a true reflection of the man > > > himself. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > Ps I lived in Yangzhou (between Shanghai and Nanjing) for several months > > > teaching English. I liked China and the Chinese, but I don't > understand how you could say that Tibet is China. It's like saying the > Aborigines in Western Australia (who didn't see a white man for another 50 > years) automatically became British subjects in the act of planting a Union > Flag on the Sydney foreshore. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > > To: "mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com"; > > > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 10:41 > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > ÃâàI disagree...merle > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > Merle, > > > > > > If you've been to China you've been to Tibet. Tibet is part of > > > China...Bill! > > > > > > --- In > mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàanthony ... i am estonian...i know the ropes > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàthe tibetans want to rule their own section... so > > > > what...?.... why cannot they?...there are many minorities in china... > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàbeen to china anthony?ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > been to tibet? > > > > merle > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Merle, > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > No way China will give up the strategically important Tibet. Estonians > > > > are a completely different race than Russians. But Tibetans are from > > > > the same language family as the Han Chinese. What they do is only > > > > simplify the pronunciation fromÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà'rdzogt tschen' to > > > > 'dzog chen'. > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> > > > > To: "mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com"; > > > > <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2012, 15:23 > > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàhave you been to china bill!..i have been 3 > > > > times...the han chinese are the majority > > > > > > > > .. why are you attacking the Dalai lama?///// i know about tibet and > > > > the oppressive feudal regime...however i think you'd have to actually > > > > go to tibet to witness what is going on...the han chinese are flooding > > > > tibet...is that good?...estonia my home country was invaded by the > > > > russians in world war 2 and thanks to the > allies the russians were "given " the baltic states...so estonia was > governed by the kremlin and the russians flooded into estonia... since > independence it is madatory that one can speak estonian in order to claim > estonian citizenship( the russians would not learn the language..and the > official language when the russians were in power was russian...it's not fun > bill!..being overlorded by another country...so i say if the tibet wish to > run their own country...then they should do so and change to modernise > through that not have it imposed upon them by the han chinese... merle > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Bill!, > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Your remarks and quotes will make the great zombie lying in Tiananmen > > > > Square happy. But he would say, 'not enough, what I did dwarfs them'. > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > > > > To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2012, 10:00 > > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: THE BASIC TEACHING OF BUDDHA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOMAN LIKE CATTLE (and a lot of other information) > > > > > > > > "Tibetan Buddhism has a legacy of violence, hypocrisy, sexism, > > > > institutional sexual abuse, homophobia and religious rule by a dictator > > > > said to be a living god (the Dalai Lama) - all so the idle monk > > > > lifestyle could be supported by a feudal system of peasants who gave > > > > over half their labor/possessions. Although Chinese rule has been > > > > oppressive for the ruling Lamaist class and its defenders, is there ANY > > > > evidence to suggest that going back to rule of a feudal God-King would > > > > be better than the current system? Has ANY dictator ever ruled to > the benefit of "his" people?" > > > > Source > > > > -ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâàhttp://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/277073.shtmlÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > > > I hope these will suffice as 'evidence' of my opinions. > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàThere are lots and lots of other sites and you can > > > > find them yourself by Binging orÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàGoggling. > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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