Jim,

I agree it needs a mathematical statement to be tested. That would involve 
general relativity equations.

Can't be tested with a small local sphere. There is no local distortion since 
it's all inside the gravitationally bound galaxy.

Edgar



On Oct 10, 2012, at 9:02 PM, jfnewell7 wrote:

> I don't know whether or not your theory is true. 
> 
> However, one method of proceeding would be to slightly restate and restate 
> the theory until it became stated in a way that tied in with some data. I'll 
> give an example, but your intuition is important and you wouldn't necessarily 
> restate it like I have done:
> 
> I might restate this as that the rate of acceleration of the expansion of 
> space is some function of the degree of curvature of the space at that point. 
> Then, the curvature of space changes as some function of the rate of 
> expansion of the space. So the variables interact. 
> 
> One possible experiment, but it would require really sensitive 
> instrumentation.
> 
> Start with a less compressed sphere, and measure at 1/2 r from the center, 
> and other points. Then compress the sphere. That will change the curvature of 
> space at the original 1/2 r point. But the changed curvature at the 1/2 r 
> point should be slightly different if your theory is correct than it would be 
> if your theory is not correct.
> 
> Jim
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Jim,
> > 
> > A theory I've proposed to explain dark matter is this. INTERgalactic space 
> > is expanding but INTRAgalactic space is not since it's gravitationally 
> > bound. Therefore there will be a distortion in the fabric of space at the 
> > boundaries. And of course any distortion of space produces gravitational 
> > effects. Therefore the result would be a gravitational halo around the edge 
> > of galaxies which is more or less how 'dark matter' manifests.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:59 PM, jfnewell7 wrote:
> > 
> > > It is proper for you to be skeptical. This is a very tentative hypothesis 
> > > and its links to quantum processes is even more tentative.
> > > 
> > > If the expansion of the universe is not accelerating, then the tentative 
> > > hypothesis falls since the expansion in acceleration is central to it. If 
> > > there is no dark energy, but the expansion of the universe is 
> > > nevertheless accelerating, then the acceleration would still need to be 
> > > solved.
> > > 
> > > If we go back a ways, I don't think "inflation" is a process we know 
> > > anything about either. 
> > > 
> > > On dark matter, I don't know what to think. I suppose an unknown massive 
> > > particle which doesn't interact electromagnetically sounds possible. A 
> > > little stranger, but still perhaps possible, is the supergravity 
> > > explanation of dark matter. But I don't know of much evidence supporting 
> > > the existence of branes. So I don't know what to think there.
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jim,
> > > > 
> > > > I leave to others the opportunity to comment point-by-point on your 
> > > > post.
> > > > 
> > > > Because I am an Observer, and Instrumentalist, in Astronomy, I am 
> > > > dubious and skeptical that the utmost has yet been done in digesting 
> > > > all the indications regarding a need to invoke "Dark Energy", in 
> > > > Universal Expansion.
> > > > 
> > > > In fact, I am working on this now. The observations seem secure, but 
> > > > certain assumptions are what I question.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems to me that there is no guarantee that Supernovae at the 
> > > > earliest epochs ought to be JUST as bright as those at later epochs 
> > > > (epochs closer to ours, when/where stars have more heavy elements 
> > > > on-board, by accumulated nucleo-synthesis, than at the earliest times).
> > > > 
> > > > Metallicity changes behavior of stars. Astronomers know this. Yet some 
> > > > feel confident to smear out the differences, or to ignore them. I don't.
> > > > 
> > > > I think so-called "Dark Energy" will be shown to be a fluke.
> > > > 
> > > > But the reality of Dark Matter is much more easily convincing. I see no 
> > > > hiding place for Ordinary Matter. The fact is that the rotation curves 
> > > > of disk galaxies are NOT Keplerian; this has been an *intense* 
> > > > embarrassment in Astronomy and Physics since about 1970, and it has not 
> > > > much been leaked to the Public. "Dark Matter" has been invoked since 
> > > > the beginning, and no one yet knows what it is. The word(s) is/(are) a 
> > > > place-holder, for... Something. And it is real.
> > > > 
> > > > It remains an embarrassment.
> > > > 
> > > > --Joe
> > > > 
> > > > > "jfnewell7" <jfnewell7@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > One:: [snip]
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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