Well, Edgar, no.
I'm talking about the awakened state. This is not a state of meditation.
And I *never* want to talk about what you call "the essence of Zen", OK? ;-)
Samadhi feeds the awakened state what it needs to maintain, but samadhi arises
even during walking around, during the weeks and months following a new
awakening.
In sitting, when samadhi breaks up suddenly -- or tears down the middle before
our open eyes -- that is awakening. Everything stops. There is no mind. This
is not a state of meditation, it is awakening.
I don't know what to say is "Zen", Edgar.
But what I wrote to Jim had to do with Zen Practice. That's the only thing
that can help him, and his beings-to-be-saved. Discussing "Zen" with him would
be pouring gasoline into an idling engine: just a waste.
--Joe
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> There is a VERY FUNDAMENTAL confusion among Zennists.
>
> It's easy to enter a particular meditative state during zazen. But this is
> exactly that, a particular meditative state. But that is NOT the essence of
> Zen...
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