Bill,

Correct except the clouds are ALSO part of Buddha Nature...

Edgar



On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Suresh,
> 
> Buddha Nature is continuous, however your AWARENESS of Buddha Nature may not 
> be continuous.
> 
> To use an historical zen metaphor: Buddha Nature is the sun and illusions are 
> clouds that can cover (occlude/hide) the sun - but the sun is always there.
> 
> I embellish that metaphor by also adding that the darkness (opacity) of the 
> clouds are due to attachments. The relative darkness (degree of opacity) of 
> the clouds could be compared to the strength of the attachment to that 
> particular illusion (cloud). Some clouds are darker than others.
> 
> Before kensho (initial awareness of Buddha Nature) the entire sky is filled 
> with dark clouds. Kensho occurs when these clouds part, even if only briefly, 
> to fully reveal the sun.  Usually the clouds then quickly return and continue 
> to blot out the sun. However after kensho you realize there is a sun, and it 
> is there whether you can clearly see it or not. Continued practice creates 
> further breaks in these clouds. Some of the breaks remain permanently. 
> Further practice also begins to render all the clouds less opaque and more 
> transparent so even in the worst of times there is always some sunlight that 
> penetrates the cloud cover. 
> 
> After much practice, and although there are always some clouds that remain, 
> there is more and more clear sky. The also clouds become more and more 
> transparent. Even then sometimes dark clouds appear seemingly out of nowhere, 
> but dissipate or become more transparent almost as quickly as they appear.
> 
> There are also times, especially during zazen (shikantaza) and at other times 
> during every day life, that the sky is completely clear.
> 
> That's been my experience of 40+ years of zen practice.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Tell me honestly, is buddha nature coninuous? How many of you are in
> > that contiuous state of buddha nature? be honest. If thoughts are
> > absent in oneself, how the body functions and who speak through the
> > body?
> > 
> > -- 
> > Thanks and best regards
> > J.Suresh
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