what's the old saying..."the moving finger hath written"... KG knows it well are we not all buddhas, joe? some having fallen from grace? merle
Edgar, Ha, ha. Yeah, I don't get what motivates your comment. Let's see if, no matter what mind you are in now, you can follow a logical exposition: The Zen adept Sumie ink artists who paint big black circles on rice paper do so with a mind that does not move: I mean, they do it with NO mind (and hence, no mind-motion). I remember our Shif-fu, on retreats, teaching us how to come OUT of meditation. He'd say, "MOVE YOUR MIND, first, then move your BODY, VERY SLOWLY, and sway your body in ever-widening circles from the waist, first in direction, then in the other". That always seemed like un-necessary advice to me, before certain developments on retreat... ...After which, I found that it was impossible to move the mind, and the body could nonetheless move. But the months of life afterwards with the mind not moving at all was a continuing marvel and surprise. And yet, life was certainly possible, and richer than ever before. "Decisions" and actions were the best I have ever done. And, Edgar, I found I could not only write, but I could type. I had to type. I needed to type because my job was to control an advanced radio-telescope from a Tektronix terminal at the top of Pupin Hall, 120th Street and Broadway. I discovered in these months giant filaments of cold molecular gas, constrained and confined by magnetic fields, in the Milky Way pouring from high above the galactic plane in the Orion-Arm, and down onto the galactic disk, where the supersonic impact from the flow stimulated the formation of stars in objects like Monoceros R2, and the Rosette Nebula. The Great Nebula M42 in Orion is part of this complex. Decades more of practice and many more retreats and more awakenings showed the same nature and character of our empty, still, awakened state, in the midst of no-matter-what activity. No thoughts: nothing moving. Life is a continuous intuition: the only mind is the mind we all share, which is no mind. I can say that the currents in the mind, or head, and the feeling or sensation that there are thoughts, or ANYTHING moving at all, is an illusion that pertains to the un-awakened state, and to that state only. These things are illusions and delusions, but the awakened state does not deprecate them: they are simply not present in the awakened state, however; not present at all. Surely, in the un-awakened state, there is the sense of something moving, and of something that takes TIME to pass before the awareness. This appears to indicate that free action of the mind is dammed-up, or necked-down, in the un-awakened state, into a bottle-neck situation, which is just what we might also expect. NOT in the awakened state. Nothing takes time. Prajna is likened to LIGHTNING, for this reason, BTW. See the Dorje lightning-bolt images at Tibetan places? Prajna is entirely spontaneous and can not be mulled-over nor formulated. Compassion arises simultaneously with Prajna. Compassion is not something that you FEEL, in the awakened state, you simply respond naturally. And so it is. --Joe > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Joe, > > Well obviously your mind was moving when you wrote this... The mind has to > move to write... > > THAT's the experience...
