Joe, Get real. Everybody's mind 'moves' nearly all the time. It's 100% necessary to live your life. A moving mind is just as 'Zen' as an empty mind. It's entirely a matter of realization of what's actually happening...
Edgar On Oct 29, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Joe wrote: > Suresh, > > I believe it is continuous, but our clearest awareness of it can become > covered again even after we have awakened one time. > > Most practitioners continue to practice after awakening, but usually the > empty state of mind becomes covered, and it seems as if the mind moves, again. > > In the condition of the unmoving mind, the awareness of emptiness is strong, > to put it mildly, and one responds to conditions just as they arise, with no > residue being left. This is all quite marvelous and miraculous. > > After perhaps months of living like this, residue begins to remain, and if we > are not scrupulous with practice, we may return to a mind which is completely > clouded, shrouded, and never at rest. > > But Bodhisattvas vow to remain in Samsara, don't we; therefore, we perhaps do > not make the most strenuous efforts to remain in the most pristine condition > in buddha nature. But we can come to see the agglomerations which lodge in us > as small distractions, and not as things that are real. We recognize them for > what they are, and we therefore take away power from them. We can still be > informed by Wisdom. It is best to ccontinue to practice, because this allows > Wisdom and Compassion to arise spontaneously, and thus we are more available, > and more helpful, to other beings. > > Most of us are not monastics, and so it may seem natural that the awakened > state should fade after some months. But regular practice can keep us > shined-up pretty well. When we have opportunity to practice intensively, we > may perhaps awaken again, and maybe such subsequent awakenings will last > longer and longer. > > But in any case, the "residues" or agglomerations which return or accumulate > have not as much power as previously. We are not bewitched by them, and we do > not take them to be "ourselves", now. This is for the good! > > In the awakened state, we pretty quickly learn to be comfortable with NOT > being able to form thoughts, nor to have any arise, nor to hold thoughts in > the mind. In any case, there is not the sensation of thoughts moving in the > mind, no, not at all. I'd say it is IMPOSSIBLE to cause a thought to form, > and to hold it. Yet -- or as a result -- we act spontaneously, and JUST as > needed, in response to conditions. Again, this is marvelous and miraculous. > The body become more healthy, for lack of stress, and our sleep is absolutely > and utterly dreamless, and the sleep is amazingly restorative, as never > before. We feel no stress, and are as relaxed and supple and flexible as a > baby. No Hatha Yoga seems beyond us. Yet, we can do heavy tasks when needed, > and use our muscles comfortably and precisely. > > Sorry, such a long report to a short question! > > All best, > > --Joe > > > SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Tell me honestly, is buddha nature coninuous? How many of you are in > > that contiuous state of buddha nature? be honest. If thoughts are > > absent in oneself, how the body functions and who speak through the > > body? > >
