Edgar, >There is guru after guru claiming HE is the only one who is enlightened and can pass that enlightenment on - but first you have to pay!
How do we go about getting afree copy of your soon to be published book then? Mike ________________________________ From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2012, 23:40 Subject: Re: [Zen] the zen spirit Merle, Excellent question. There is guru after guru claiming HE is the only one who is enlightened and can pass that enlightenment on - but first you have to pay! Edgar On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > how can we be so sure that the master is truly awake, joe?.... merle > > > > > >Brother Suresh, > >Mind is a funny thing. Sometimes we can convince ourselves that, "Now I've >seen everything!", and be happy. But a teacher might say we have not entered >the door, yet. > >A book cannot interact with us in this way, because the "content" of the book >is only open to our interpretation, and out interpretation can be hundreds of >miles OFF. > >And if the Intellect does the judging, you are already wrong. > >If you read the Zen literature and accounts of the masters, you will see many >stories of monks stepping forward, claiming to be "enlightened" after reading >many Sutras, etc., but the master hits them with a stick and chases them back >to the meditation hall to "Work harder!, you faker!" > >Words are GOADS, but cannot give you an examination. Only the Doctor can. > >A book can teach you some methods and attitudes, but it CANNOT test you on >whether you have truly shed your skin or not. Another individual who is AWAKE >must do this, or you may in fact be hundreds of miles off-course, and all >hands will be lost. > >You need GPS! Dead-reckoning too often results in wrecks. > >--Joe > >> SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: >> >> Joe: A teacher is needed to help us persist the right way(s). >> >> Suresh: Do you mean a teacher in living body form? Why not a teacher >> be a book? Or why not it is nature? or why not it is a situation? > > > > > >
